Why are DEMO accounts allowed to copy strategies from LIVE accounts?
Why are DEMO accounts allowed to copy strategies from LIVE accounts?
26 Feb 2020, 12:42
I'm a strategy provider on cTrader Copy. I recently started broadcasting one of my strategies for a fee, but I realized that at least 2 demo accounts started following me. Is there any way to prevent demo accounts from copying my trades? No commission is earned with virtual funds and this is a loophole that some may use to duplicate trades to real accounts without having to pay fees.
Regarding the counter-argument that copying a strategy efficiently requires monitoring the screen 24/7, this is not necessarily true as the entry time for certain strategies could be fixed, like for example, before or at the opening of major exchanges, so the copier would only need to monitor the screen at those times.
I have stopped and restarted my strategy a couple of times to get rid of the demo accounts, but I cannot continue doing this all the time. Is there a way to block demo accounts? I've been a successful trader for several years and I can provide different strategies to investors using your platform, but the current configuration is discouraging for strategy providers who put a lot of time and effort into finding an edge over the markets.
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ctid584223
24 Apr 2020, 16:08
RE:
Hi PanagiotisCharalampous,
By allowing Demo accounts to copy strategies, you explicitly make a way to trick strategy providers and get all positions without paying any penny for it. What's the point then for the copy trader feature if none of the truly respectable and profitable traders will ever want to share his/her positions for free? So far this sounds like a totally useless overpromoted feature.
Please consider developing a protection for intellectual property of traders.
PanagiotisCharalampous said:
Hi DisciplinedMindset,
There is no way to prevent demo accounts from copying your strategy at the moment.
Best Regards,
Panagiotis
@ctid584223
Vik_FinTrader
25 Apr 2020, 15:13
RE: I agree with my colleagues, allowing demo accounts to copy isn't a fair business. In name of transparency and differentiation from other systems on the market, it is urged to stop it. Needless to say that same apply for strategy providers. Cheers.
PanagiotisCharalampous said:
Hi DisciplinedMindset,
There is no way to prevent demo accounts from copying your strategy at the moment.
Best Regards,
Panagiotis
@Vik_FinTrader
acrigney
15 Dec 2020, 06:49
RE: RE: I agree with my colleagues, allowing demo accounts to copy isn't a fair business. In name of transparency and differentiation from other systems on the market, it is urged to stop it. Needless to say that same apply for strategy providers. Cheers.
Guys you can provide a private link to your traders now
VitorMZ said:
PanagiotisCharalampous said:
Hi DisciplinedMindset,
There is no way to prevent demo accounts from copying your strategy at the moment.
Best Regards,
Panagiotis
@acrigney
PanagiotisCharalampous
15 Dec 2020, 08:22
Dear all,
cTrader Web 4.0 has introduced the option to disable demo accounts from following your strategies.
Best Regards,
Panagiotis
@PanagiotisCharalampous
vcfr99
19 Dec 2020, 11:18
RE:
Great news! I took a quick glance at the new version and the best feature is that earned commissions will no longer be deposited into the trading account. That was really inconvenient so I'm glad to see it was corrected. So, when will the beta phase end and the new version will go live?
PanagiotisCharalampous said:
Dear all,
cTrader Web 4.0 has introduced the option to disable demo accounts from following your strategies.
Best Regards,
Panagiotis
@vcfr99
PanagiotisCharalampous
21 Dec 2020, 08:28
Dear vcfr99,
The new copy features should work on production accounts as well.
Best Regards,
Panagiotis
@PanagiotisCharalampous
Shares4us
06 Jan 2021, 16:57
@PanagiotisCharalampous. @DisciplinedMindset
In the cTrader copy Telegramgroup we use demo copy to get the right figures to compare the various strategies.
No demo follow => no info for us => no comparison for traders.
So please allowing demo copy is beneficial to all and for Spotware please Add a 'delay parameter' for seeing the positions (legally allowed because there is no real money involved!)
@Shares4us
K.Elenka
13 Jan 2021, 00:30
RE:
I agree.
The same with me. I've 11 followers and only 1 real! No fees for me :-(
DisciplinedMindset said:
I'm a strategy provider on cTrader Copy. I recently started broadcasting one of my strategies for a fee, but I realized that at least 2 demo accounts started following me. Is there any way to prevent demo accounts from copying my trades? No commission is earned with virtual funds and this is a loophole that some may use to duplicate trades to real accounts without having to pay fees.
Regarding the counter-argument that copying a strategy efficiently requires monitoring the screen 24/7, this is not necessarily true as the entry time for certain strategies could be fixed, like for example, before or at the opening of major exchanges, so the copier would only need to monitor the screen at those times.
I have stopped and restarted my strategy a couple of times to get rid of the demo accounts, but I cannot continue doing this all the time. Is there a way to block demo accounts? I've been a successful trader for several years and I can provide different strategies to investors using your platform, but the current configuration is discouraging for strategy providers who put a lot of time and effort into finding an edge over the markets.
@K.Elenka
PanagiotisCharalampous
13 Jan 2021, 08:07
Hi robymall,
As mentioned above, this is already available in cTrader Web 4.0.
Best Regards,
Panagiotis
@PanagiotisCharalampous
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PanagiotisCharalampous
26 Feb 2020, 12:47
Hi DisciplinedMindset,
There is no way to prevent demo accounts from copying your strategy at the moment.
Best Regards,
Panagiotis
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